The key to a good interview is listening. To truly listen, you need to be present. In today's episode, we hear from Tim Jack Adams, founder of GreenX7, about the benefits of mindfulness and how it can help us to engage with our guest and ask deeper questions.
Using these techniques is applicable to not just interviewing, but many facets of your life and business. These include your everyday life to enjoy more as well as your productivity throughout the day.
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Tim Jack Adams (00:00):
The most important thing that we need as human beings is to be seen and to be heard. So when it comes back to doing an interview podcast, the person on the other end, let's just say me, I want to be seen and I want to be heard. And the reason that is because I need to make sure that you value me. And if you value me, I trust you. And if I trust you, I'm going to allow you to go deeper and deeper into our conversation, which is going to draw me out. And you're going to get knowledge and understanding that maybe no one else has had before.
Welcome to the digital approach podcast. This show is brought to you by a Rhine media group, with the goal to help you and inspired business owner remove the overwhelm from marketing in the online world, through success stories and practical strategies from entrepreneurs that have done it. There's plenty to come in this episode. So let's get into it. I'm your host, Ryan Fowler. And in this episode, I'd like to share with you a technique that I haven't really seen in the digital space, which is how mindfulness can make you a better interviewer. Now just stay with me here. It might sound a little bit out there, but the principles of interviewing is to connect you with the guest and to do that, you need to be present to understand this. I've got Tim Jack Adams on the show for you, who is an international speaker facilitator and thought leader on wellbeing and resilience is the founder of green X seven, which has created a framework to measure and improve wellbeing for leaders, teams, and organizations to thrive sustainably.
His clients include the Australian defence force, red bull, Ernest and young and six senses, just to name a few. Tim is a family man and resides on the Tweed coast and spends time with his two chocolate Labradors. And they are absolutely beautiful dogs. I have met them and he spends a lot of time on the beach with the family in on or under the water. Now Tim's purpose is to help leaders grow into their fullest potential. And to top it off, Tim is a genuine guy who really knows what he is talking about. So the team, thank you so much for joining me on the
Tim Jack Adams (02:22):
You're welcome. You almost make it say like my chocolate labs are more important than my family, so we better,
Tim Jack Adams (02:39):
Is almost as good as the Choc labs.
Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for that. All right. So my pleasure. It's great to have you here. So I want to start with you sharing with us. What actually led you down the path of creating green X seven and the concept of helping business owners, leaders and their staff actually understand their own battery.
Tim Jack Adams (03:04):
Well, it's an unusual one. Basically 2009, I started a company called water sports guru and it was all based on getting people outdoors and connecting to nature through fun experiences. And that was Norco with the turtles, kayaking, paddle, boarding, surfing, whatever it was. My whole purpose was just to discover the fund through nature activities. So that was 2009 by 2012, I'm sitting down there always, you know, I'm a board shorts having fun barefoot watching people frolic and ponder in the water. And I kept asking myself, why is it when people reconnect to self as a nature, do they become healthier and happier? And I'd been watching this since I was 21. That's how long I was in the outdoor education industry. And that one question led me to about five years of research. We basically connect with people, practitioners, academics all over the world.
Tim Jack Adams (03:58):
And what I found was there was a lot of research and science that was coming to fruition, especially through neuroscience that actively engaging in nature is one of the best things we can do for our mental, emotional, and physical health. Now, at the time I was going through my own journey so were many people around me and I realized that if I could create a rhythm for us to be able to connect to self others and nature each and every day, it would improve our everyday wellness. And this really did come down to not just physical, but mental health as well. So that took us on creating a framework, which we called the seven tools. And that also then started to lead me down the path of, okay, now that we've got those seven tools, that's great, but how do we actually measure wellbeing also for ourselves, but at that stage, my staff, my friends and most importantly, I actually lost a very good friend of mine through suicide.
Tim Jack Adams (04:52):
And that was what led me to working out. Okay. How do we create a deeper conversation with somebody instead of saying, are you okay? And them always coming back and saying, I'm fine. So for me, it was purely a personal thing about looking at all my brothers, my mates, and going, okay, how do we create a deep conversation without us blokes putting up a wall, putting the mask on and really going, oh, how is your battery? Because the battery analogy for me, it works. You know, we plug in our phones every single night. We make that deliberate effort, but how often do we make that deliberate effort for ourselves to recharge our own battery? So I guess before we go on, what is the battery, that's probably a good thing to understand, and that's literally how you're going and what makes up that battery. So that's our green acts, seven got started.
I think a lot of people are really gonna find a lot of value in, in what you've got to share and what you actually do is fantastic. I've seen the results of a lot of people and how that's changed them. And I've even done the challenge and it's changed me personally as well for the better, which is great. So there's one thing that you mentioned that I, I want to touch on before we actually get into the main topic of this is making a deliberate effort to recharge and probably that key point of making a deliberate effort, because that's kind of a theme that's going to carry through for the rest of this interview. What's it like for people to actually make that shift and create and try to create a habit of deliberate effort?
Tim Jack Adams (06:23):
Yeah. The deliberate efforts, the important ones. So just rewind wellbeing literally means to be in a comfortable state, mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually. The word wellness is completely different because the word wellness means the deliberate effort to get into that comfortable state. And it's a deliberate effort that we as human beings really struggle with, especially if we find something hard and we don't like it, right. So we have to go, okay, well, what's something that's causing me so much pain here that I need to change and create a habit to actually enjoy my future self. And sometimes that, that pain needs to be quite significant for us to want to change, to improve ourselves. So the deliberate effort comes down to the time that we wake up in the morning. If we want to move, if we choose to go the salad over there, hamburger, like everything creates a deliberate effort in our life. And we really have to look at, I will, here it is. Do I really want to make the deliberate effort and move in a positive direction? Or, you know what, I'm really happy. Just hanging out, eating burgers, watching Netflix, and God knows where I'm going to end up if I keep doing that. So deliberate effort comes everything in life.
Yeah. I'm the hamburger and the salad is definitely a challenging one because I usually pick the
Tim Jack Adams (07:44):
Cool burgers. Absolutely.
Especially when it's a, oh, anyway, we weren't getting to that topic
Tim Jack Adams (07:49):
And we've only just started. There's a lot that you cover and talk about inside of green X seven and what you do. But the thing I really want to focus on is around mindfulness and that is the key topic of the interview and what we want to cover and how it can actually help our listeners become better interviewers. So first off, can you actually give us an overview of what mindfulness really is?
Tim Jack Adams (08:15):
[Inaudible] Great question. Right. Because if I rewind eight years ago, mindfulness to me was very fluffy. And I probably wouldn't even touched it with a 10 foot pole. But that was before things started to change in my life and I knew I had to improve. So when I started looking at mindfulness, the first image that came to my mind when I was, when I first heard about it was basically a Yogi sitting in a cave cross-legged long beard, you know, sitting there doing their arms. And that was what I'm starting
To float off the floor. Yeah,
Tim Jack Adams (08:49):
Exactly. Right. So that was my first introduction of what I actually thought mindfulness was when I actually started to do the research, it purely just means being in the present moment. So that's what mindfulness is. It's, it's quite a basic concept, right? It's when I'm here with you, I'm trying to be a hundred percent present with Ryan Fowler doing this podcast and not looking at my phone or listening to maybe Sonny who's, you know, yelling in the next door bedroom or whatever it is. It's about having a hundred percent focus on the thing that I'm doing in that very moment. And once I realized that's what mindfulness was, it actually became very practical. And I started to look at ways that I could use it not only in my professional life, but also my personal,
I was very much along the same thought lines. And it was actually doing a, your first challenge or one of your earlier challenges that it kind of helped introduce that new perspective on it. So when you know, this, this basic understanding is still quite broad. So what benefits would people actually see if they did start to practice mine?
Tim Jack Adams (09:56):
Okay, great question. The benefits are long and wide. I'm going to make an, a very simple example in this one. So a perfect example is we are very busy, right? Society somehow has turned into human doings and not just human beings anymore. For some reason, we need to fill up every little bit of time and space throughout the day to make us feel valued, have a sense of meaning and belonging, because that's really what us humans desires, value, meaning belonging. Now, when it comes to mindfulness and the benefits, it allows us to slow down. It allows us to actually stop, reconnect to ourselves and find out what's really important for us, not from the expectations of somebody else from society, but really what it is in here that makes us or our hearts sing. So the first thing that mindfulness does is allow you to stop.
Tim Jack Adams (10:51):
It allows you to connect. And one of the best tools to do this is to actually just use your breath, right? And the beautiful thing about your breath is we use this tool here and it's with us 24 7. So no matter how crazy life can get, we know that we've always got that tool on ourselves 24 7, and we can use it in any situation. So a perfect example for us is that I find that a lot of people that I coach with organizations, they're very busy. They sit at their desks while they're having lunch. And they're multitasking, right? Multitasking. We know from neuroscience, it doesn't work guys. So you might as well squash that one, but there'll be there. There'll be eating a sandwich. They'll be on the phone. They'll be tapping away at their screen. They'll be looking at the WatsApp, there'll be scrolling through Facebook.
Tim Jack Adams (11:36):
And all of a sudden they've sculpt down their lunch. They have no idea what it was and what it tasted like, the interjection system's gone crazy because your body's in this fight or flight mode. So it's actually in fight, which means that you're storing fat on your body. So a great way to lose fat is actually be mindful while you eat. And you've done all these things, but you actually haven't done them at a hundred percent capacity because number one, you have enjoyed the meal that you've just bought. Number two, you're probably on the phone with someone, but you're focusing on a screen. So you actually, haven't given them your fullest attention. And you've probably wrote an email that you might've communicated something, but it actually hasn't connected with the audience on the other end. So in every situation person on the phone is not feeling valued. The email that's just been read, they don't feel valued. And the sandwich that, you know, you paid $9 90 for that does Bailey wasn't feeling valued either. So in all these examples, it's really about taking away the multitasking and focusing on one task at a time, because at the end of the day, we're not actually saving time while multitasking, but what we're actually doing is we're losing connections with ourselves and others around us. Does that make sense?
Yeah, absolutely. And it really comes into the focus of, you know, being present in that moment and focusing on what you're doing to really be in that exact moment, which if, as you're listening to this, you're probably starting to get an understanding of where we're going with this and how it relates to interviewing. But first I would like to ask, what is it like when you actually first start practicing mindfulness and listening to your thoughts? Because I know that when I first started it, it was a little bit overwhelming trying to listen to all of my thoughts at once. And then over time, obviously with a bit of practice, it starts to start to get a little bit easier as you compartmentalize almost without actually storing things away. You sort of acknowledge things as they come up without trying to focus on everything all at once. So first for someone who's starting, this, what's kind of the general experience and how can that be worked with, to sort of start to put this into practice?
Tim Jack Adams (13:45):
So like you said to begin with the practice, isn't easy, but it gets easier. The more you practice, right. And that's what we have to remember. So this was very interesting because last year my wife started mindfulness and she did it through the app. I think it was the calm app that she used. And it was a great journey to watch Carly go through this. And she actually ended up doing it for about eight months prior to Sonny being born. And every single day she would come into the office and I'd ask her, how was your meditation session or mindfulness session? And she spent 10 minutes every single morning doing it. Okay. She's a very habitual person. So for her, she still found that a struggle to sit down at five 50, every single morning for 10 minutes and actually just be still.
Tim Jack Adams (14:33):
Now she's an a type personality. So for Carly, just to sit still, number one was a tough call, okay. For her to sit still and breathe was even tougher now for her to get simpler. And the way that I started learning how to do mindfulness was I got taught that when you got a thought in your mind, you would let it pass like a cloud. So the thing is, you're never going to get rid of your thoughts. They're always going to be there. So what we have to do is when we're doing mindfulness and we're trying to be a hundred percent present, we're trying not to think about too much, but the product of the matter is we are going to think about stuff. It's what happens. So when you're in that mood, I want you to think about those thoughts as a cloud, just passing by, and you can always get that cloud back and think about it.
Tim Jack Adams (15:25):
But at that stage, let them just pass by like a cloud and come back to your breath. That's the most important thing that I could say to someone is when practicing mindfulness use that breath as a tool to come back to it. Even if you have to count your in breath and count your out breath, it does get easier every time. But I have to admit, even for myself, I have a very busy mind and even I can't sit still for 10 minutes. So, you know, I'm like, I'm not saying I'm amazing at it, but I definitely practice it. That's for sure.
So you won't be levitating off any seats anytime soon.
Tim Jack Adams (16:01):
No, physically anyway. And actually that was a very interesting point because I asked Kali she only had, so you hear about this out of body experience a lot, especially when it comes to meditation. So mindfulness is about being in the present moment. Meditation for me is about going deeper, deeper, and deeper into your body, and then trying to get an out of body experience. Now, like the only time I've ever had an outer body experience is when I was free diving. And I go really deep into my breath work for Carly over the eight months. She only got an outer body of experience once. And that was at about the three month mark. The problem was she tried to chase that experience for the next five months, but she never got it again. And this is where I find it so interesting because the expectation right. Can be so high for some people thinking that they're going to hit something. And yet really it's just about calming yourself down, reconnecting to who you are and what you need, and then finding out what the outcome is moving forward.
Like a great part that you've just said in there is, you know, people are trying to chase this experience, but how this is actually going to relate to people's everyday lives. And you know, the people listening, you know, you might start wanting to go into that phase or, you know, try and chase that better experience, but in bringing this back to its simplest form, and usually we like to keep things simple, especially in business or interviewing or whatever we're doing. If we can keep things simple, then it'll help us to expand what we're actually trying to do properly and, and really focus on that. So bringing mindfulness in without having to go meditating and all that sort of stuff, especially when you are doing interviewing, we'll let you focus on exactly where you are. So Tim, can you share a bit more of the benefit of how mindfulness can come into interviewing and actually be there to, to really help people be present?
Tim Jack Adams (18:01):
Beautiful question, Ryan. So what mindfulness does is it brings us to the present moment and to be a hundred percent present, what we need to do is focus. So right now, Ryan, I'm focusing on you. Okay. As the host. And what I want to do is make sure that I'm connecting to you a hundred percent. So you know that I'm in this interview and I'm not being distracted anywhere else. Now, if we swapped it around and let's just say, I was coaching you, then what I wanted to do is I need you to connect with me. Okay? And the reason why I want you to connect with me is because I want to create a deeper conversation right between us. So I can understand where you're at and what you need to do to move forward. So when it comes to interviewing people or coaching people, you really need to read between the lines.
Tim Jack Adams (18:51):
You need to listen to what they're not saying now when you're distracted. And if I'm thinking about my phone ringing, or I'm thinking about, you know, a dog barking next door, cause we're all working from home studios, I'm not picking up about the things that you're not saying. Now, the most important thing that we can do for each other as humans is to create that deeper conversation is to connect with each other. Because what that does is create value, meaning and belonging. So this is what I see so much. So when a staff member goes to their boss, asks them a question, the boss is busy, busy, busy. I see it with husbands and wives. I see it with friends, with friends. I see it all the time. One of the biggest issues that we have in society is that if I'm talking to you and all of a sudden I pull out my phone and I start scrolling through it, or I answer that phone call, what does it make you feel on the other end of that transaction?
Like I've not been heard.
Tim Jack Adams (19:44):
Yeah. And the most important thing that we need as human beings is to be seen and to be heard. So when it comes back to doing an interview podcast, the person on the other end, let's just say me, I want to be seen and I want to be heard. And the reason that is because I need to make sure that you value me. And if you value me, I trust you. And if I trust you, I'm going to allow you to go deeper and deeper into our conversation, which is going to draw me out. And you're going to get knowledge and understanding that maybe no one else has had before. And this is what makes a good coach or a good interviewer is something that can connect so deeply with someone that that person is willing for that person to go deeper and allow them to go deeper into their personal life, their business life at whatever it is because let's face it.
Tim Jack Adams (20:35):
Most people sit up here, right? And they don't go deep. Okay. So normal conversation, normal chit chat. It's very surface level. If you can get deeper and deeper. And with someone that trust is created, that value meaning and belonging gets created. And that I hear you, I see you, that interview just goes deeper and deeper. And I love long form interviews. Like look at Joe Rogan, three hours, like who would think you could go three hours, you're getting deeper and deeper into that conversation because Joe Rogan knows how to listen. He knows how to make you feel heard. And this is a prime example of if you want to be a good interviewer, you need to make sure that that person is being heard connected to trusted. And so they will answer the way that they may have never answered with an interview or before. So being a hundred percent present creates that. I hear you. I see.
Yeah, definitely. And when you do get into that present mindfulness moment, like you know, as we were talking before, we were getting a little closer to lunchtime as we're recording this. So, you know, I, I felt my stomach growl. I'm getting a little hungry, it's acknowledged. Like I acknowledged that thought and came back and that that's where being present really does come into it's own effect. And there is another question that I will follow up with in just a second is there is something that you said and from the interviewer's perspective with you, you're obviously a very well knowledgeable person. But th there's one thing that you said that I really want to just sort of highlight a little bit and really make clear is when you are present, you can pick up on what people are not saying. You can read between the lines and go that bit deeper.
So being able to pick up on what the guest isn't saying and reading between the lines and being able to then take that next step to go deeper is where being present really does come into it. So the next question here is one that probably takes us a little bit further is when you are, you know, you have been practicing this you've, you might've been practicing your interviewing skills. And once you actually do get into an interview, how do you acknowledge and track and find those thoughts and realize when you've actually gone off track? How do you bring yourself back?
Tim Jack Adams (22:52):
Good question, Mike, what are you thinking about right now
Talking to you?
Tim Jack Adams (23:00):
So look, the best way to bring yourself back is probably just take one big, long, slow, deep breath because we need something to anchor us, right? Anchor points are a wonderful thing. So if we know that we're going off track, all right, I'm back in the present moment. Now you don't have to do it as big as, as significant as that, because it's going to look very bizarre to the person. But in my mind, what I'm actually saying to myself is get back on track, right? Because what I'm trying to work out is what's the outcome that I'm trying to achieve with this interview. Cause right here, right now, nothing else matters in the world night. Like we are in for the next half an hour, however long the outside does not exist because if it did, and I didn't care about this interview, I wouldn't do it.
Tim Jack Adams (23:50):
So number one is, if you're not going to be a hundred percent present with something, why bother doing it in the first place? That's probably the first point to make. If I am in the interview and I find myself getting off track, because I'm going to use this as a prime example, I'm in a studio outside the house, but I can still see, you know, I can still hear my family and the dogs and my kid, right? So I'm going to get distracted for a moment, but I need to bring myself back, understand the outcome that I'm trying to achieve. And that is to get people to understand what mindfulness is and how they can help. Then I have to bring that and use my breath to come back to the present moment.
Yeah. That that's a terrific strategy of coming back. Just if people are listening to this you know, we can see Tim taking a nice, big, deep breath. And you can probably hear him through the microphone. If you are sort of interviewing, you can always just take a slight step back as I am now and then take your deep breath and then come back in so that it doesn't pick up in your audio recording, especially if you are doing a podcast, because interview is the most important part. So being able to just take that slight step away and come back and, and be fully present in the moment with your guests is a great way to just connect. So Tim, now that we've got a bit more of an understanding of this and, and understanding how to bring ourselves back, what is a really good way to actually recognize that you have gone off track because when a thought comes up, especially if you're doing an interview like this, especially if it's in an industry that you're a part of, you can start thinking about your own business and you can start thinking about yourself or, you know, a client that you might be working with.
So how do you actually recognize that to then take that deep breath and pull yourself back?
Tim Jack Adams (25:38):
I honestly think it's about looking at what's the outcome we're trying to achieve here, right? And if you're a good podcast or if you're a good coach or whatever it is, the outcome should matter, right. Otherwise you probably shouldn't be doing it in the first place. So at the start of this session, I actually wrote down, what's the outcome that we're trying to achieve here with Ryan Fowler. And I write that down and I realized that if it's not on target with that, then obviously my thoughts are going elsewhere. So I need to bring it back to that exact question. What's the outcome I'm trying to achieve when talking to Ryan, if it doesn't come back to that exact outcome, then my thoughts are off track and I'd need to bring it back on track and know that I've got plenty of time after this interview, right? To think about everything else that's going on, including hamburgers or salad for lunch. But it is really about what's the outcome I'm trying to achieve. And if I'm not thinking about that outcome, I need to bring myself back using that breath and then anchor myself back into this podcast.
Yeah, that's a terrific, terrific example of that recognition pattern. Having, having that final goal is just something so great to be able to come back to and pull yourself back to, and just ask that question in your own mind. Is this on track? Is it on track to pull yourself back? So thank you for sharing that. Now I know that you've prepared a couple of exercises for us to actually start getting into that mindfulness space. And if you're listening to this driving a car or something like that, it's probably not the best idea to be listening to it or doing this exact exercise because, you know, we don't want any, any bad accidents to happen, but just take a few moments if you are in a quiet space to actually just really listen in and be mindful on this podcast too, to really listen to what Tim's got to say, because he's very good at what he does. And, and I know that these exercises are going to be great to be able to share that with you and get into the mindfulness space before you actually start doing your interview.
Tim Jack Adams (27:46):
Great example, and I use this exact same practice for me. Even before we did this podcast before, I'm about to go into a coaching call, anything even sitting down for dinner I found that having dinner with my wife and being mindful has been an amazing way for us, not just to communicate but to connect. And I use that a lot. So I use the difference between communication and connection, quite a lot in the work that I do because in the work that I do, it's all about connecting with someone communications about, you know, getting something across connecting is about letting that resonate with someone. And so what we're trying to do is always trying to connect with someone, not just communicate a point, but really getting down and connecting. So look, we get very busy. And even prior to this podcast, you know, I was off doing my own thing and getting this sorted and doing that.
Tim Jack Adams (28:35):
So I actually had to ground myself back to where I am and what the outcome is. Sometimes that's really hard if you don't have an anchor point. Okay? So using your breath as an anchor is going to be wonderful. So we are going to practice a bit of a technique. Now I normally listen to podcasts when I'm mowing or doing the chores. So if anyone's mowing, you're doing the choice, you could probably switch up the mower or put down the dust or whatever you're doing, but we are going to go through a one minute exercise. So Ryan, you can, you can join in on me with this one. And if you're listening, you can join in as well. So what I'd love you to do is just get very comfortable, no matter where you're at, whether you're sitting down, whether you're standing up if you're in the car and the car parked, you turn the engine off just for a little bit.
Tim Jack Adams (29:23):
And I just want you to just to roll your shoulders back and forth for me, just completely relax your body and what I'd love you to do now that your body is relaxed is I just want you to start doing nice, slow, deep, gentle breasts in, through your nose and out through your nose. And you'll find that while you're doing this, you'll have a tendency just to close down your eyes. And if you haven't already just close the nice and gently, and I want you to just to focus on that breath coming in and out through and Holmes. I want you to breathe in deeply, nice, gentle, deep breaths, and then breathe out nice and slowly through your nose and what I'd like you to do. Now, while you're doing this nice, slow, deep, gentle breath is just put one hand on your stomach and one hand on your chest. And as you're breathing in slowly through your nose, I want you to feel your stomach rise, bringing that ed deep into your belly, feel your chest rise as you bring it up and then just slowly release it again through your nose.
Tim Jack Adams (30:55):
And as you breathe in, just feel your stomach rise, feel your chest rise and then release it slowly through your nose. We want to look at doing about five seconds in five seconds out. This might be hard at first do what's comfortable cause it's better to just doing deep breasts than having to be perfect. Feel that stomach and chest rise, pause, and then slowly breathe out through your nose and what I want you to do while you're doing these nice big, slow, deep breasts is if you're somewhere and you can hear the natural sounds around you. I want you to listen to those at the moment. I can hear the birds chirping in the trees, but if you're somewhere in a city or in a car park, I want you to think about being in a rainforest or maybe just being barefoot on the sand at the beach. And just listening to those waves, rolling in feeling the sand in between your feet, feeling that cold water, just lapping over your toes, the sun on your face, the breeze blowing, and just dig deep into that emotion. Feel that warmth, feel the smile coming across your lips as you just plast yourself there in the ocean.
Tim Jack Adams (32:33):
And if you do have any thoughts that come across, just let them drift by like a cloud. You can always back to them, but right now, I just want you to enjoy being on the beach, feeling the sun, the wind, listening to the waves and enjoy just having yourself grounded in a really positive emotion. Just continue to do these nice being deep breaths in through your nose and down three nines. And on this last one, what we're going to do is on our last biggest deepest breath. We're just going to stretch our arms above us and then do a big exhale out, Shake your hands, roll your shoulders, open up your eyes and come back, feeling calm, centered, and grounded being a hundred percent present where you are in the moment, knowing that you've got a warm feeling in your heart, ah, I'm looking at something beautiful. Like Ryan fell his face,
Always with a compliment.
Tim Jack Adams (34:01):
How do you feel, buddy?
Very calm and very relaxed.
Tim Jack Adams (34:04):
Yeah, it's quite amazing. And you really only need six of those very slow, big, deep breaths to change your physiology. So if you've only got six breaths, which takes about a minute, you can definitely Grande yourself before starting.
I know that I'm feeling very calm at the moment and very relaxed to close off the interview. And I'm sure a lot of, a lot of the listeners are just feeling very calm at the moment, which is a nice way to end a podcast actually nicely inspired and ready to take action. I suppose. So Tim, I just wanted to say thank you for being on the podcast. It's been so great to actually have you on here with us and sharing your expertise and really giving some great advice and techniques on how mindfulness can make you a better interviewer. So as people are listening, where can they find out a bit more about you?
Tim Jack Adams (35:00):
Well, they can just jump on and Google Tim Jack Adams. And that'll probably just take them to my website or green X seven is what we use for larger organizations. So if they want to connect with me, just go to Tim Jack Adams. And if they run a large organization and they want to use these habits for their staff to thrive more sustainably, then they can just go to green X seven.com. And apart from that, they'll probably find me out in the ocean surfing or frolicking and fondling. So maybe I'll just see them there.
Absolutely thanks so much. And I will put links to those websites down in the show notes. If you did want to find out more about Tim or work with him on a range of different subjects. So thank you so much again for joining us on the podcast. And it was so great to have you. There's going to be a lot of value and benefit coming out of this pleasure,
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Buddy. I'll see you
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